Wilco interview with drummer

Glenn Kotche

interview by: David Gawdunyk

August 17, 2007

 

 

Glenn Kotche 2007


 

David : How's the tour been going so far, I understand Nels came down with the chicken pox which forced a few cancellations ?

Glenn : Things are good.  Nels flew in yesterday and tonight’s his first show in Calgary.  Nels was in a bad place with adult chicken pox.  Adult chicken pox is a bad thing to have; he had a really high fever there for a few days and all the sore that comes with it of course.  He’s far from 100% but hopefully he’s good enough to get through some of these shows.

David : How’s the tour been so far ?

Glenn : Good.  We had a few weeks off and before that we were doing the festival shows in Europe and before that the eastern U.S. and let’s see… it was Australia before that.  It’s good to be doing our own shows again because we get to play quite a bit longer than the European festival shows, we can vary the repertoire when we are on our own.

David : How’s the reaction to the new material when playing live ?

Glenn : It’s been really good. Of course with this band the songs tend to be a little more amped up live and that’s just the dynamic of playing live.  It’s a little more exciting.  I think some of the new stuff sounds better live with that boost of energy.

David : When it comes time to record a new Wilco album, how important is it for you to try to bring something new to the table in your playing?  Is it a case of serving the song first or do you look at it as a chance to push yourself every time out ?

Glenn : Kind of both actually.  I look at it as a chance to push myself and challenge myself but at the same time, serving the song can be done in very subtle ways and this album is a perfect example of that.

An album like “Yankee Hotel Foxtrot”, I was able to do tons of overt, experimenting with different percussion with parts overlapping and with my solo albums I can really experiment where I couldn’t in the context of Wilco where the primary focus would be Jeff’s vocals and lyrics.  What I do in a case like “Sky Blue Sky” is if it’s something like we are recording it live, I try to find subtle ways to experiment and “Sky Blue Sky” was all about feel for me.

David : I recently read someone describe Wilco as "America's most consistently interesting band". When approaching a new album, does the band make a conscious decision to push the envelope, to change things up, to keep things fresh and new ?

Glenn : There isn’t any concept going into it, like “we can’t do that because we’ve done that already’.  It just goes with how we feel at the time.  For “Sky Blue Sky” there wasn’t any songs written before-hand.  It was all jammed out in our loft studio… well 95% of it was.  So for that, there was no way of predicting how it was going to come out, we just go with what resonates with us.  We had a lot of songs that didn’t make this album.  If we have songs that sound like they could have gone on a different album, that might not be so interesting for us, so maybe that’s why from record to record you see such a change.  It’s not us trying to mess with our fans, it's more us just keeping ourselves motivated and interested in what we are doing.

David : So you hold back songs that might not fit in with the overall album for later use ?

Glenn : Oh yeah, ever since I’ve been involved we’ve done that.  If it’s a case of we have a song that doesn’t quite fit in with the other batch of songs it kinda gets postponed and finished later.  In the case of “Sky Blue Sky” and I suppose for “Yankee Hotel Foxtrot” we had songs that just didn’t feel like they fit in or added anything to the album.  The album would have been complete without them so they get put on a B-side for Europe or maybe a bonus song for iTunes or a lot of times we save them for another record.  The title track off of “Sky Blue Sky” was actually a song Jeff wrote and demoed years ago.

David : Wilco is an amazing dynamic live band.  Have there ever been issues with translating that excitement when recording an album ?

Glenn : We made that live album “Kicking Television” to capture that.  For “Sky Blue Sky” we did it live with all the tracks bleeding through the others.  There was no isolation booths, no using headphones.  Jeff was singing the same time I was doing my drum tracks, so it was recorded as a live band in a studio.  Obviously it wasn’t full on aggression like you might see live.  We’ve taken care of that with the live album.  I don’t think there is any pressure to have that sound.  They both have their unique properties and we enjoy doing them both.

David : Does Jeff bring in songs fully formed or does the band tend to jam things out when writing material ?

Glenn : There have been songs that were already fully formed and really no arrangement needed.  Then there has been songs that come in, that once you play it for a bit, you kind of play with it like, “Let’s make it faster here” or “Let's move this part there”.  So there's always lots of arranging that goes on.  Some more than others.   For “Yankee Hotel Foxtrot” I was brought in half way through that album so I don’t know what was written before hand.  “A Ghost Is Born” I think most of the songs were brought in by Jeff almost all done but the new album is the most collaborative thing we have done for sure.

David : When touring, how does the band keep things fresh, do you tinker with the set list ?  Does the music allow you to play the same songs differently every night to prevent it from getting stale ?

Glenn : The set list does change.  I personally would change it more drastically but then I realize that wouldn’t go over too well with the fans.  There are songs they expect to hear.  There is always a core group of songs that we have to play but we do play around with others.  We have a lot of albums now; we have a lot of options…. it's tough to figure out what we will play on tour.  Some songs grow into their own arrangements from playing it live.  You might play a song 5 times or 50 times before recording it or you might play something 200 times before recording it, and you find out things that work better.  You do things that seem to fit the song better, songs tend to grow into their own arrangements.

David : Do you read reviews of your live shows and album reviews ?  Do you even care what critics have to say ?

Glenn : You know I do, a lot more when “Yankee Hotel Foxtrot” came out but this one, I’ve been too busy to notice.  For live reviews, we’ve usually left that town already so I don’t see them.  I suppose I could look them up online but I usually don’t see those.

David : Should we expect another solo album from you in the near future, have you thought about that yet or is Wilco all consuming right now ?

Glenn : The last one was released last spring.  I’m not working on one now as I am working on some other stuff.  I’m working on something with the Kronos Quartet.  I will be premiering that in October at the San Francisco Jazz Festival.  So that’s a 25 minute, 7 movement piece, string quartet with me playing with them. So that’s taking up a lot of time and I’m working with other ensembles now too… so to answer your question, yes I will make another one and I have that planned but it might be another year or two away cause I have these other things that are priority right now.

David : You're known in the music community for being one of the premier drummers in rock.  Is it a thrill or childhood dream to appear on the cover of drummer magazines and to be appreciated ?

Glenn : That stuff doesn’t really matter but course its nice to be appreciated and to be on the cover of “Modern Drummer” magazine is something I dreamed of as a kid.  But the older you get you realize that those things don’t always go to the most deserving people and I think the older I get the more humble I get and I realize there's so much more I have to learn yet.  So even though it’s nice for those things to happen, I don’t know….. I just get more humble about it.

When you’re a kid you see those guys on the cover of those magazines and you think “they’ve got it all figured out” and then when you actually get to that place you realize that, “man I got so much more to learn”… musically, personally... and that kind of puts me in my place.


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